The bullet nerds may not like it much, but it will do the job if you can do your part.So, don’t be too quick to dismiss the .38 wadcutter as a defensive round. ‘…there’s at some point a performance curve where weight, ease of carry, excessive recoil, shot placement, and over penetration factor into the defensive effectiveness of a handgun.’. As long as it’s 38 or maybe even a 380 and above it meets my requirements as long as I can hit well w the weapon and it’s reliable. Reproduction without permission prohibited. They were trying to quantify a lot of previous observational stuff from Hatcher and others. My test at the range revealed an average velocity of 870 feet per second from my 2-inch model 642. Putty is both temperature sensitive and in my opinion shows wound cavities much larger than realistic. In fact, it was the polar opposite. My learning and shooting philosophy is: one. On top of that, I question the idea that the “performance was virtually identical”.
Check out my targets when I’m shooting wadcutters and one can easily tell the difference. Even more experienced shooters using a steel frame revolver will typically find that they can get accurate follow-up shots much quicker with wadcutters than with most other loads. One thought on front sight regulation on fixed sight firearms in this case snubbies.
If you didn’t catch that earlier video, a wadcutter is a roughly cylinder-shaped bullet that is designed to be used in revolvers. 1: S&W M&P Compact, 3.5” barrel
.357 SIG demonstrates nearly identical expansion as hotter .357 Mag or 9mm loads, but uses that extra energy in driving the bullet deeper into the gel. Just read and enjoy absorbing information. Bravo!
And, obviously it only works in one direction: bringing the POI up. Thanks again for the great articles! The next step to this, if anyone would like to volunteer, is to capture that cavity expansion from the slow-mo footage. The Chicago Load -a.k.a.+P 158 grain Lead Semi-Wad Cutter Hollow Points. However, I use the Buffalo Bore 150 grain hard cast wadcutter rather than the 148 grain target loads. It’s an excellent choice for a snubby, especially for a standard pressure load. The most common example would be a carjacker who points a gun at you in your car with your windows closed. The round simply weren’t loaded hot enough and modern high performance bullets really didn’t exist. However, 10mm excels with the right ammo in specific applications. All these days statistics are all fine and good. With respect to penetration, FBI standards penalize a bullet that is unable to consistently penetrate a minimum of 12 inches in the calibrated gelatin (including after barrier penetration). Round nosed pellets have the greatest penetration, even greater than pointed pellets of the same weight. I shoot often, so I don’t find the recoil of 357 particularly potent.
A lot of people think those reduced power loads are the full power ones in .357, though. Yes, that’s a good observation, indeed. One drawback of the wadcutter is that it is often (perhaps always, in factory ammunition) loaded as a flush-seated wadcutter. 357 Mag became obsolete for duty use 3 decades ago and now the 357 Sig, 40 S&W, & 45 ACP are as well, it might take another 5 yrs for that to sink in with many civilian & LE shooters, but it’s a fact. Two asides: I was trained at the FLETC in handgun and combat shotgun by Jim Cirillo. “I’m sincerely saddened by the results of .357 Magnum out of short barrel lengths.”. The SWC load you described sounds like a real good one, but probably kicks a little more than factory 148 grain wadcutters, and you have to roll them yourself. The 9mm will take down the steel plates, but the 45 and 357 will slam the plates down. Here, we take a broader look than just precision. In these photographs, you will notice several interesting and important trends. This website featured an article with that data roughly three years ago. When a defender draws a handgun and points it at an attacker, about 90% of those attackers will immediately break-off their attack and leave the area without the defender even having to fire.
357 out of a carbine length barrel is an outstanding medium game combo.
.357 has the edge over 10mm in the same barrels.
That’s the step you suggested. Back in the day before we knew better, conventional wisdom on handgun stopping power held that reliable effective “hydrostatic shock” was achievable for defensive carry of LE duty and/or concealed carry handguns, and that “man stopping power” was generated by “bigger”, “faster”, or a combination of the two. Wadcutters, semi wadcutters, and the like aren’t as sexy, and sure, they don’t exhibit the same theoretical damage to soft tissue in an ideal situation as a high tech hollow point. When I’m taking the family to a very low threat area, such as a community event where many off-duty LE and other friends will be carrying a concealed handgun, I simply pack a S&W 351PD or NAA Black Widow in .22WMR. Key for carrying a 380 is to hit exactly where you want, “fastly”. Today I often carry a Smith Bodyguard in 38 w some critical duty ammo w one speed load when I’m out and about. It will kill a deer easily at the ranges I hunt. Here’s the fun part. Like the relationship between velocity and energy, the ‘hydrostatic shock’ (for lack of a better term) also goes up by a factor of 2. I guess that’s why I like your article so much. Your carjacker could shoot through your glass window or your car’s thin sheet metal door and kill you. And despite being executed by anti-gunners, there’s interesting data here. Mike (nMW). In this video we test them in Gel for self defense purposes. The wadcutter is so named because it was originally designed to be used in target revolvers in “bullseye” shooting competitions. So you can believe actual kills or play all day with all the gelatin and ballistic mumbo jumbo you want to. When he shoots his human analog with 357 magnum the difference in terminal effect from 9mm (or 40 and 45, for that matter) is substantial. That means handguns, regardless of caliber or how effective it is at physiologically incapacitating a human, will guarantee that the defender prevails without any further physical injuries (upon drawing and shooting) at least 95% of the time.
The G26 was a pussycat, the G27 was a snappy beast.
The bullet nerds were trying to be helpful, but they didn’t do a very good job of reading the situation and tailoring their advice for our friend.
And a little better than a sharp stick. I use the 180 Remington Ultimate Defense avg penetration 15 ” through barrier and expansion .80 (see lucky gunner ballistics site).
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